Pampa Energy Inc.
Pampa Energy Inc. Q3 FY2024 earnings call
November 10, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
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Summary
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Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Gas upstream and power generation helped overcome winter peak. Gas production up 8% y-o-y, CCGTs had high load factors. Balance sheet solid with net debt at lowest since 2016. Adjusted EBITDA $279 million, up 14% y-o-y.
- Balance sheet: Net debt at lowest since 2016, net cash $1.2 billion by end of September, net debt $539 million, 0.8x last 12 months EBITDA.
- PEPE 6: Civil works complete, all wells installed, 98% advanced, 130 MW operational, full COD expected soon.
- Rincon de Aranda: Production at 1,000 bbls/day, development plan targets 45,000 bbls/day by 2027, planning to drill 7 pads annually, $700 million to be invested in 2025.
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Power Generation: Posted EBITDA of $112 million in Q3, a 23% year-on-year increase. Driven by operating outperformance and higher legacy prices, but offset by lower industrial demand, increased operating expenses, and divestment of Mario Cebreiro. CCGTs achieved high load factors. PEPE 6 expansion is nearly complete with 130 MW operational and full COD expected soon.
- E&P: EBITDA was $122 million in Q3, down 8% year-on-year. Gas production increased 8% year-on-year with Shell contributing. Mangrullo and Sierra Chata were key producers. Oil only 6% of output.
- Petrochemicals: EBITDA $2 million in Q3, down 88% year-on-year due to higher costs and economic downturn, partially offset by higher volumes and prices of reforming products.
Guidance
Guidance
- Gas Production: Forecast to end 2024 with average ~13 million cubic meters/day, peaking ~16 million. 2025 average ~13.1-13.2 million cubic meters/day, peaking ~14.3-14.5 million including exports to Chile.
- Refinancing: Comfortable with debt profile, no immediate need to access markets, but may extend maturity of remaining '27 notes if market conditions are favorable.
Risks
Risks
- Gas evacuation capacity issues: Delays in compressor plant commissioning, warmer weather, and soft demand in Chile impacting volumes.
- Regulatory uncertainties: Uncertainties around LNG project discussions and energy tariff scheme processes.
Q&A highlights
Question and Answer
Q: Talk about initial performance of Rincón de Aranda and drilling path through end of 2025 A: 2 rigs working, forecast to drill 28 wells by end of 2025, expecting 12,000 bbls by April-May 2025 and 18,000 bbls by September 2025.
Q: Argentina's LNG project discussions A: Interested in monetizing dry gas reserves via LNG, prefers floating units over land facilities, priority on Vaca Muerta Sur project first.
Q: Sierra Chata block and Exxon process A: No info on Exxon's process, Pampa is operator and plans unchanged.
Q: Energia Base scheme and power generation EBITDA impact A: Estimated ~$10M/year EBITDA impact, CapEx needed, thermal generation expansion possible but regulated environment limits current growth.
Q: Gas transportation and transmission tariff schemes A: TJ requested extension, Transener and TGS processes ongoing, focusing on license extensions.
Q: CAMMESA receivables A: Paid on time, last six months paid within 3-4 days of billing.
Q: Hydro concessions in Mendoza A: Government yet to decide, Pampa interested if concessions are auctioned again.
Q: Gas production guidance for 2025 A: Average ~13.1-13.2 million cubic meters/day, peaking ~14.3-14.5 million including exports to Chile.
Q: Next steps after refinancing A: Comfortable with debt profile, no immediate need to access markets, may extend '27 notes if favorable market window.
Q: Positioning in free contracting term market A: Pampa has competitive advantage due to integrated business, efficient CCGTs, and experienced commercial team.
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