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Walker & Dunlop, Inc.
Walker & Dunlop, Inc. Q3 FY2024 earnings call
November 7, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
EPS · actual vs est
$1.19 / $1.01Beat +17.8%
Revenue · actual vs est
$292.3M / $310.6MMiss -5.9%
Summary
Generated 2024-11-07
Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Market Improvement: Q3 financial results reflect an improving commercial real estate market with $11.6 billion in total transaction volume, up 36% Y/Y. Diluted earnings per share grew 33% Y/Y to $0.85. Property sales volume in multifamily is on the rise, and GSEs stepped back into the market in Q3 with strong loan volumes.
- Business Model: Held onto bankers and brokers during the tightening cycle, expanding the team from 174 in 2019 to 231 today. Utilizing data analytics tool Galaxy to drive efficiency, with 68% of refinancings rated locked being new loans and 19% of transaction volume with new clients. Technology-enabled businesses like Apprise and Small Balance Lending showing growth, with Apprise revenues growing from $2.4M in Q1 to $3.3M in Q3.
- Affordable Housing: HUD lending volumes grew over 200% to $272M in Q3, moving from 5th to 2nd largest HUD multifamily lender. Affordable equity revenues down 37% due to lower syndication and dispositions, but confident in pickup of syndication and disposition volumes.
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Capital Markets: Closed $11.6 billion of total transaction volume in Q3, up 36% from Q3 2023 and 37% sequentially from Q2. Net income for the segment grew 210% to $22 million, while adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $4.6 million. Property sales volume increased 135% from the previous quarter, with multifamily sales activity showing a strong trend. GSE loan volumes saw a pickup, with $3.5 billion closed in Q3.
- SAM (Servicing and Asset Management): Ended the quarter with a total managed portfolio of $152 billion, including a $134 billion servicing portfolio and $18 billion of assets under management. Revenues declined 2% this quarter due to lower syndication revenues from Walker & Dunlop affordable Equity, but servicing fees increased 3%. A $3 million provision for credit losses was recognized related to defaulted loans.
Guidance
Guidance
- Full-year target: Mid-single digits to low-teens growth in diluted EPS, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted core EPS. Q3 momentum and strong Q4 pipeline support achieving the low end of diluted EPS guidance.
- Interest Rates: FOMC rate cut in September will reduce net interest earnings by $4M-$5M in Q4, but transaction activity growth expected to offset this decline.
Risks
Risks
- Credit Risk: Recognized a $3 million provision for credit losses this quarter related to defaulted loans. Fannie Mae requested repurchase of two defaulted loans totaling $26M.
- Interest Rate Volatility: Impact on transaction volumes and asset valuations if interest rates continue to fluctuate significantly, affecting the ability to determine accurate cap rates for property sales/buybacks.
Q&A highlights
Question and Answer
- Q: On property sales volume pull-through from pipeline and purpose mix shift A: Pipeline gestation period longer than a quarter, Q4 pipeline overweighted towards refinancing activity versus acquisition activity.
- Q: Impact of 10-year treasury at 5% A: Unpredictable, but market at start of new cycle with pipeline holding strong despite recent rate increase.
- Q: GSE throughput in Q4 A: Fannie Mae side in control, not echoing competitor's concerns about Freddie Mac Optigo's ability to process business.
- Q: Revenue mix difference between volume and growth A: Balance between Capital Markets and SAM segments, with transaction activity impact on revenues occurring down the road (e.g., servicing fees earned after loan closure).
- Q: Risk in servicing portfolio with rates A: 91% of risk portfolio is fixed rate, low refi risk in 2025; stability in rates more important than aggregate rate level for market transaction volumes
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $1.19 | $1.01 | +17.8% | $1.11 |
| Revenue | $292.3M | $310.6M | -5.9% | $268.7M |
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