Thermon Group Holdings, Inc.
Thermon Group Holdings, Inc. Q2 FY2025 earnings call
November 10, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
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Summary
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Management highlights
- Strategic priorities included improved bookings momentum, operational excellence initiatives, financial discipline, and capital allocation with acquisitions like Vapor Power and F.A.T.I.
- Acquired Vapor Power earlier in the year, which increased exposure to diverse end markets and electrification, with integration going well.
- Completed acquisition of F.A.T.I. on October 2nd, a 79-year-old industrial heater business in Italy with $13M trailing 12-month revenues, over $15M backlog, and a $12.5M Euro purchase price.
- Highlighted nuclear market opportunities, including delivering an 8.2 megawatt precision electrode boiler for nuclear power plants and opportunities in refurbishment and small modular reactors.
Segment performance
In the second quarter, revenue was $115 million, a year-over-year decrease of 7.4%. Vapor Power contributed $12.1 million to revenue. Excluding Vapor Power, organic sales decreased 17%. Large project revenue was $17.5 million, down 51% year-over-year. OpEx revenues were $97.2 million, an increase of 10% compared to the previous year. On a trailing 12-month basis, materials and small project revenues represent over 80% of revenues, while large project revenues are 20%. The OpEx revenues have grown nearly 11% on a TTM basis and increased over 1% organically, while large project revenue has declined 20%.
Guidance
- Adjusted full-year 2025 guidance: revenue range $495M-$515M, adjusted EBITDA range $105M-$110M, adjusted EPS range $1.77-$1.89 per share.
- Vapor Power is still tracking in the $55M-$57M range for the balance of the year.
- The long-term secular trends in end markets remain favorable, and the company is well-positioned to benefit from energy transition, decarbonization, onshoring, and infrastructure spending.
Q&A highlights
Q: Could you give indication if Vapor Power is still tracking towards 55 million?
A: Yes, the Vapor business is still tracking in the $55 million to $57 million range for the balance of the year, with strong backlog but challenge in growing capacity to ship.
Q: Can you give more color on the nuclear end market size to the business?
A: The pipeline of opportunities is roughly $1.2 billion, with current nuclear opportunities about 4% of that, and other large opportunities like a large expansion of an existing facility and small modular reactors around $100 million.
Q: Does the past election affect the probability of large projects starting to get released?
A: With elections behind us, there should be more clarity moving forward, likely positively impacting overall activity, and the company is seeing growing pipeline of opportunities in large projects.
Q: What's the outlook for large project activity coming back?
A: The company continues to see a growing pipeline of opportunities, with some projects beginning to move forward during the quarter, and expects customers to begin moving forward on projects as clarity improves.
Q: What are the large projects being pushed out in terms of sectors?
A: Large projects being pushed out are broad based, including some in renewables due to permitting issues, semiconductors, pharmaceutical projects, and a large petrochemical project with carbon capture storage in engineering for the back half of the year with revenues starting early in 2026.
Q: Do alternative energy projects or decarbonization projects might be put on back burner with new oil and gas favoring administration?
A: Policy will drive pace, and the company stands to benefit from both oil and gas spending improvements and decarbonization opportunities, with policy evolution over the next 6 to 12 months expected to impact.
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