Pagaya Technologies Ltd.
Pagaya Technologies Ltd. Q1 FY2024 earnings call
May 9, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-03
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Summary
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Management highlights
Key Points from Gal Krubiner
- Proud of first quarter results, with record $2 billion in funding, added Elavon and 18 funding investors, network connected to 30 lenders and 116 funding partners.
- Financial results exceeded outlook with network volume $2.4B, total revenues $245M, adjusted EBITDA $40M, FRLPC up 84% y/y, and positive GAAP operating income.
From Sanjiv Das
- Reorganized operating business into growth and monetization areas to increase capital efficiency and margin. Growth team focuses on adding new partners, monetization team on maximizing revenue and efficient capital allocation.
- Credit performance strong with low delinquencies in 2023 vintages, outperforming market in PL and auto.
From Evangelos Perros
- Detailed financials including network volume $2.4B, total revenue $245M, adjusted EBITDA $40M. Discussed capital efficiency strategies like diversifying funding with whole loan sales and forward flow, aiming for cash flow positive by early 2025.
Segment performance
In the first quarter, Pagaya achieved record-breaking financial results. Network volume reached $2.4 billion, total revenues were $245 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $40 million. Fee Revenue Less Production Costs (FRLPC) was up 84% year-over-year to $92 million, with a FRLPC margin extending 109 basis points year-over-year to 3.8%. Personal loans were the largest driver of network volume, accounting for 55% of the total. The average personal loan FRLPC margin more than doubled year-over-year to 6%.
Guidance
Second Quarter 2024
- Expected network volume to range between $2.2 billion and $2.4 billion.
- Total revenue and other income expected to range between $235 million and $245 million.
- Adjusted EBITDA expected to range between $40 million and $45 million.
Full Year 2024
- Expected network volume to range between $9 billion and $10.5 billion.
- Total revenue and other income expected to range between $925 million and $1.05 billion.
- Adjusted EBITDA expected to range between $150 million and $190 million.
Q&A highlights
Q: John Hecht asked about the cadence of $1 billion flow arrangements.
A: Gal Krubiner responded that they are in negotiations with strong connectivity to asset managers and hope to announce near-term.
Q: Joseph Vafi inquired about underwriting and network volume vs application flow.
A: Gal Krubiner explained disciplined approach focusing on higher unit economics channels, and Evangelos Perros added on higher quality flow leading to inverse ratio of application flow to network volume.
Q: Michael Legg asked about cost of capital and loan portfolio.
A: Gal Krubiner said cost of capital is below 7% and the portfolio mix is shifting to higher quality debt, improving P&L and balance sheet.
Q: David Scharf asked about risk retention timeframe and Elavon.
A: Evangelos Perros stated they are progressing with funding diversifications, and Sanjiv Das mentioned Elavon is moving towards POS lending with Pagaya's solution.
Q: Harold Goetsch inquired about automotive partners.
A: Gal Krubiner discussed auto rollout progress on Ally and other partners, and capital allocation based on unit economics.
Q: Steven Kwok asked about unit economics improvement.
A: Evangelos Perros and Sanjiv Das mentioned ongoing efforts to improve fees and FRLPC through disciplined unit economics strategies and pricing power with top accounts.
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $0.20 | $0.16 | +25.0% | $-0.24 |
| Revenue | $237.0M | $223.9M | +5.9% | $175.3M |
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