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PITNEY BOWES INC /DE/ Q4 FY2024 earnings call

February 11, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

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Management highlights

  • Exiting the Global Ecommerce segment: One-time costs expected to be approximately $165 million, with $120 million paid by year-end and the remainder in the first half of 2025; offset by a tax asset of approximately $164 million recorded in 2024 GAAP earnings.
  • Cost takeout: Removed approximately $30 million in annualized costs during the fourth quarter, with a run rate exiting 2024 of approximately $120 million in annualized savings; now target $170 million to $190 million in net annualized savings.
  • Balance sheet simplification: Anticipate holding $100 million less cash, reduced offshore cash by $90 million, and the Bank Receivables Purchase Program freed $41 million; paid off Oaktree notes and refinanced debt, with nearest maturity in March 2027.
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Segment performance

For SendTech, in the fourth quarter, shipping related revenue grew 18%. Full year revenue was $2.027 billion, down 3% year-over-year. Shipping related revenues in the fourth quarter comprised 17% of full year SendTech segment revenue. For Presort, full year revenue was $663 million, up from $618 million the prior year. Q4 revenue was $180 million, up 10% year-over-year. Adjusted EBIT for the full year was $166 million, up 49% versus the prior year.

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Guidance

  • 2025 revenue expected to be between $1.95 billion and $2 billion, with a modest decline due to SendTech product migration, offset by growth in Presort and shipping related revenues in SendTech.
  • Adjusted EBIT expected to be between $450 million and $480 million, driven by cost savings and growth in Presort and SendTech shipping.
  • Adjusted EPS expected to be between $1.10 to $1.30 per share.
  • Free cash flow expected to range between $330 million and $370 million.
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Risks

  • Uncertainties in SendTech's product cycle migration.
  • Market conditions that could impact revenue and margins.
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Q&A highlights

Q: About one-time items in EBIT outperformance A: John Witek discussed that the outperformance was due to better business performance at the start of the quarter and additional overhead savings becoming clearer with the simplified business structure Q: Presort EBIT margins sustainability A: John Witek mentioned it's a combination of pricing, mix of volumes, and productivity efforts Q: SendTech margin improvement in 2026 A: Lance Rosenzweig said shipping growth would offset mailing decline headwinds by then Q: Share repurchase cadence A: Lance Rosenzweig stated the $150 million share repurchase facility will be utilized opportunistically based on market conditions Q: Presort volume expectations A: John Witek said volumes are expected to be similar going forward with mix impact from various mail categories Q: 2025 CapEx A: John Witek said CapEx is expected to be comparable to 2024 Q: Corporate expense decline A: John Witek said it was due to cost savings, primarily from corporate overheads Q: Pension charge A: John Witek discussed a lump sum campaign in the U.S. and Canada that improved pension funding and was a non-cash item Q: Debt refinancing A: John Witek said the approach is opportunistic, focusing on nearer term maturities and more expensive debt Q: Inflection point for revenue growth A: Lance Rosenzweig said the company is working towards it but not in 2025

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