PACIFIC BIOSCIENCES OF CALIFORNIA, INC.
PACIFIC BIOSCIENCES OF CALIFORNIA, INC. Q4 FY2024 earnings call
February 13, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
Generated 2025-02-13
Management highlights
Key Achievements
- Fourth quarter: Shipped 23 Brevio systems and 7 Vega Benchtop platforms.
- Full-year 2024: $154 million revenue, 97 Revio shipments, customer base expanded to nearly 200 Revio instrument customers.
- HiFi sequencing: Output grew 81% in 2024, 12-fold increase since 2020.
Priorities
- Expand HiFi sequencing adoption, accelerate Vega Benchtop platform uptake, enhance Revio with Spark Chemistry, provide bioinformatics solutions.
Operational Actions
- Reduced non-GAAP operating expenses by over $75 million in 2024.
- Executed convertible note exchange, reducing debt by $259 million.
- New leadership: Dave Ruggiero joined as Global Head of Sales and Service; Chris Smith joined the board.
Segment performance
In the fourth quarter of 2024, product, service, and other revenue was $39.2 million, a 33% decrease from $58.4 million in Q4 2023. Instrument revenue in Q4 was $15.3 million, a 56% drop due to lower Revio shipments. Consumables revenue was $18.8 million, roughly flat, and service and other revenue was $5.1 million, up from $4.4 million in Q4 2023. Full-year 2024 revenue was $154 million, with 97 Revio shipments. Consumable revenue grew 11% in 2024 to $70.4 million, a 23% compound annual growth rate since 2020. Application and extraction kit revenue grew 56% in 2024.
Guidance
Revenue
- 2025 revenue expected $155M-$170M, midpoint 6% growth year-over-year.
- Q1 2025 revenue expected lower than Q4 2024 due to seasonality.
Gross Margin
- 2025 non-GAAP gross margin expected 35%-40%, exiting above 40%.
Expenses
- Non-GAAP operating expenses 2025 expected $270M-$280M, down 3%-7% from 2024.
Cash Flow
- Anticipate turning cash flow positive by 2027.
Risks
- Macroeconomic pressures extending sales cycles.
- NIH funding uncertainty affecting academic environment.
- Potential export issues and market competition from other long-read technology entrants.
Q&A highlights
Q: Tycho Peterson asked about NIH disruption and Vega shipments.
A: Christian Henry discussed monitoring NIH impact, Vega sales funnel growth.
Q: Kyle Nixon asked about Revio shipments and NIH exposure.
A: Christian Henry discussed macroeconomic impact on Revio, Europe offsetting Americas risk.
Q: Dan Brennan asked about NIH exposure magnitude.
A: Christian Henry discussed NIH revenue as ~20% of total, deal-by-deal impact.
Q: Doug Schenkel asked about gross margin and adoption initiatives.
A: Christian Henry discussed gross margin improvement, reagent rental and informatics initiatives.
Q: Tejas Savant asked about China concentration and competition.
A: Christian Henry discussed no local alternatives in China, portfolio driving demand.
Q: Jack Meehan asked about Vega order book.
A: Christian Henry discussed Vega opportunity set, distributor discounts.
Q: Subbu Nambi asked about Roche competition and upside drivers.
A: Christian Henry discussed no Roche impact, pop gen projects, clinical adoption, macro improvement as upside drivers.
Q: Sung Ji Nam asked about clinical revenue growth.
A: Christian Henry discussed clinical revenue doubling in 3 years, rare disease, panel testing, oncology.
Q: Eve Burstein asked about reagent rentals and Revio vs Vega margins.
A: Christian Henry discussed majority CapEx placements, Vega margin outlook.
Q: Mason Carrico asked about cash flow breakeven assumptions.
A: Christian Henry discussed revenue and margin assumptions for cash flow breakeven.
Q: Sam asked about Revio pull through and Spark impact.
A: Christian Henry discussed Q4 air pocket, Spark impact on pull through
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $-0.20 | $-0.20 | +0.0% | $-0.27 |
| Revenue | $39.2M | $40.7M | -3.6% | $58.4M |
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