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ENVIRI Corp Q3 FY2024 earnings call

October 31, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

EPS · actual vs est

$-0.01 / $0.06Miss -116.7%

Revenue · actual vs est

$573.6M / $580.5MMiss -1.2%
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Summary

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Management highlights

Management Statement and Operational Highlights

  • Acknowledged the loss of Mauro Curi, President of Harsco Environmental. Will lead HE until new President is named early next year.
  • Clean Earth had another record quarter for EBITDA and margin, with double-digit earnings growth.
  • HE faced headwinds from a weak global steel market, excess capacity in China, and customer production curtailments.
  • Rail faced supply chain and operational challenges, plus the impact of Hurricane Helene.
  • Strengthened balance sheet through asset sales and renewals/extensions of credit facilities.
  • Strategic plan focuses on organic growth, margin improvement, stabilizing Rail, and creating shareholder value.
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Segment performance

Segment Performance

  • Clean Earth: Revenues totaled $237 million, down 1% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA increased 23% to $42 million, with an EBITDA margin of 17.5%, both quarterly records. Driven by price, lower incentive compensation, bad debt expenses, and efficiency initiatives.
  • Harsco Environmental (HE): Revenues were $279 million, down 2% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA was $53 million, modestly lower than the prior year. Impacted by a weak global steel market, excess capacity in China, and customer production curtailments.
  • Rail: Revenues were $58 million. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $2 million. Impacted by shipment and supply chain delays, Hurricane Helene, and operational bottlenecks.
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Guidance

Guidance

  • 2024 adjusted EBITDA expected to be within $317 million to $327 million (up 5% vs 2023), midpoint down $10 million from prior guidance due to HE and Rail, offset by raised Clean Earth.
  • 2025 free cash flow expected $40 million to $60 million due to improved Rail, strong cash flow in CE and HE, lower interest expense, and pension contributions.
  • 2024 Q4 adjusted EBITDA expected $68 million to $78 million; Clean Earth EBITDA above prior year, HE lower due to FX, contract exits, divestitures, Rail modestly higher.
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Risks

Risks

  • Weak global steel market impacting HE.
  • Supply chain and operational challenges in Rail.
  • Weather-related impacts (e.g., Hurricane Helene).
  • Risks related to forward-looking statements, including potential material differences from actual results.
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Q&A highlights

Question and Answer

Q: Ability to deal with lower volumes in HE. How much fixed cost, flexibility?

A: HE has minimum billings and fixed fees providing protection below threshold, but some impact until then; focus on EBITDA minus CapEx, which is more stable.

Q: Volume growth in Clean Earth. Where strength?

A: Health Care segment healthy, retail has churn, industrial/manufacturing soft.

Q: Cash flow and free cash flow, Rail impact.

A: Rail cash use expected to improve; pension contributions and interest costs to decline; HE and CE to generate cash.

Q: Rail ETO contracts, time line, cash generation.

A: Smaller ETO contracts to be positive next year; large UK and Germany contracts to generate $75M+ free cash flow later.

Q: Rail forward loss provision drivers.

A: Complex, long-term projects with constant fine-tuning of cost estimates due to high customization.

Q: Noncontrolling interest in cash flows.

A: Timing of distributing accumulated earnings from joint ventures, mainly HE related.

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

Earnings calendar feed

MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$-0.01$0.06-116.7%
Revenue$573.6M$580.5M-1.2%

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