MGIC INVESTMENT CORP
MGIC INVESTMENT CORP Q3 FY2024 earnings call
November 5, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
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Summary
Generated 2024-11-05
Management highlights
Key Points:
- Strong third quarter financial results with net income $200M and ROE 15.6%.
- Insurance in force at $293B, new insurance written $17.2B (+27% QoQ).
- Capital activities: repurchased 5.2M shares for $123M, paid $34M dividend; additional 2.9M shares repurchased in October.
- Housing market: constrained by supply and affordability but showing signs of easing with Fed rate cuts and lower mortgage rates.
- A.M. Best upgraded MGIC's ratings to A from A-, citing balance sheet strength and operating performance.
- Favorable loss reserve development due to strong cure rates on 2022-2023 delinquencies.
- Reinsurance program: new 40% quota share agreement for 2025-2026 NIW, and cancellation of 2021 quota share treaties.
Segment performance
In the third quarter, MGIC earned net income of $200 million with an annualized return on equity of 15.6%. Insurance in force ended at $293 billion, up slightly quarter-over-quarter. New insurance written was $17.2 billion, a 27% increase from the prior quarter. Net income per diluted share was $0.77, compared to $0.64 last year. The reinsurance program is a key component of capital management, reducing loss volatility and providing capital flexibility.
Guidance
Forward-Looking:
- Expect share repurchases to remain primary capital return to shareholders.
- Full-year operating expenses expected $215M-$225M.
- Book value per share grew to $20.66, up 19% YoY.
- PMIERs excess level expected to decrease due to $400M dividend and reinsurance actions.
Risks
Risks:
- Uncertain macroeconomic conditions impacting housing market.
- Potential impact of hurricanes on delinquencies and reserving.
- Interest rate changes affecting reinvestment rates and investment income.
Q&A highlights
Q: Terry Ma asked about changes to static pool delinquency curves and vintage performance.
A: Nathan Colson explained updated frequency of data points, and while 2022 vintage showed marginally worse new delinquencies, cumulative cure rates remain strong.
Q: Bose George inquired about new insurance written growth and credit performance.
A: Tim Mattke stated they likely gained market share due to broad customer base and risk-based pricing.
Q: Mihir Bhatia asked about premium rates, persistency, and expenses.
A: Tim Mattke noted stable premium rates, Nathan Colson discussed persistency tied to low note rates and expenses expected in $215M-$225M range.
Q: Geoffrey Dunn asked about reinsurance profit commission threshold.
A: Nathan Colson explained book years at 63% and 62%, and shift to multiyear reinsurance due to market capacity.
Q: Scott Heleniak inquired about hurricanes' impact on delinquencies and interest rate sensitivity.
A: Tim Mattke said early to see hurricane impacts, Nathan Colson discussed new money yield and limited floating rate exposure with 4-year portfolio duration.
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