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LyondellBasell Industries NV

LyondellBasell Industries NV Q3 FY2024 earnings call

November 1, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

EPS · actual vs est

$1.88 / $1.99Miss -5.3%

Revenue · actual vs est

$10.32B / $10.59BMiss -2.5%
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Management highlights

Management Statement and Operational Highlights

  • Safety: LYB's GoalZERO commitment resulted in a September year-to-date total recordable incident rate of 0.13, exceeding top quartile peers in the sector.
  • Financials: Q3 EBITDA was $1.2 billion. Cash from operating activities was $670 million. Shareholder returns totaled almost $1.8 billion over the last 12 months, with a cash balance of $2.6 billion at Q3 end.
  • MoReTec-1: Construction started in September 202x in Wesseling, Germany. It's expected to start up in 2026, using proprietary catalytic advanced recycling technology to produce recycled cracker feedstocks.
  • Houston refinery: Plan to close by Q1 2025. Consideration of projects includes a larger MoReTec unit, renewable/bio-based feedstocks, and repurposing the site for sustainable value.
  • Value enhancement program: Expected to unlock $600 million in recurring annual EBITDA by end of 2024 and $1 billion by end of 2025.
  • Refining shutdown: Staged shutdown starting Jan 2025, with expected net cash benefit of ~$175 million in 2025. Employees will be retrained/redeployed where possible.
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Segment performance

Segment Performance

  • Olefins and Polyolefins - Americas: Q3 EBITDA was $758 million, up 13% quarter-on-quarter and 50% year-on-year. Integrated polyethylene margins were supported by low ethane and natural gas costs, and higher polyethylene prices. LYB's U.S. crackers ran at 95% rates during the quarter.
  • Olefins and Polyolefins Europe, Asia and International: Q3 EBITDA was $81 million. Volumes declined due to a planned turnaround at the large Wesseling cracker in Germany. Seasonal softening of demand and planned maintenance impacted operations.
  • Refining segment: Q3 EBITDA was a loss of $23 million due to lackluster demand, high industry operating rates, and declining crack spreads for gasoline and distillate fuels.
  • Intermediates & Derivatives (I&D): Q3 EBITDA was $317 million, a decline driven by material decreases in raw material margins for oxyfuels and propylene oxide volatility.
  • Advanced Polymer Solutions (APS): Q3 EBITDA was $19 million. Weaker demand in the automotive sector was offset by growth in packaging markets.
  • Technology segment: Q3 EBITDA was $69 million, lower than guidance due to several customers not achieving expected licensing milestones.
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Guidance

Guidance

  • Cash generation: Expectations of improved cash generation in Q4, though market conditions remain challenging.
  • Refining: Further margin compression expected in the near-term as Maya 2-1-1 crack spreads continue to fall.
  • Seasonal demand: Typical seasonal softening of demand in most segments, with oxyfuels margins remaining low in line with seasonal norms.
  • Value enhancement: On track to unlock $600 million recurring annual EBITDA by end of 2024 and $1 billion by end of 2025.
  • Regional outlook: Americas polyolefin demand improving, Europe market muted but stable, China markets slowly improving from pre-pandemic levels.
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Risks

Risks

  • Market volatility: Impact on crack spreads and margins due to fluctuating crude prices and gasoline crack spreads.
  • Seasonal trends: Seasonal softening of demand in olefins and polyolefins constraining price increases.
  • Regulatory changes: Uncertainties in European regulatory environment affecting capacity rationalization.
  • China market: Uncertainties in China market recovery impacting demand for intermediates and derivatives.
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Q&A highlights

Question and Answer

  • Q: About North American polyethylene market strength in October, A: Overhang of September orders and favorable feedstock/crude price dynamics contributed to strong October orders, though seasonal slowdown expected in November/December.
  • Q: PO and derivatives decline, operating rates in Q4, A: Impacted by unplanned downtime and weaker variable margins, with operating rates expected to be ~75% in Q4 due to planned maintenance.
  • Q: Polyethylene prices in Q4, A: Hopeful for price increases but seasonal demand may hinder full realization of price hikes, with domestic demand and exports supporting optimism.
  • Q: U.S. asset mix in 5-6 years, A: Leveraging existing infrastructure for renewable/circular feedstocks, maintaining feedstock flexibility while focusing on demand for low-carbon solutions.
  • Q: European restructuring timelines, A: Process underway, expecting clarity in 2025. Portfolio to shift to 70% cost-advantaged operations from current 60%.
  • Q: APK acquisition technology maturity, A: APK's solution-based recycling technology for laminated films is being integrated, with plans to scale up and integrate into future offerings by 2030.
  • Q: Refining transition earnings impact, A: No material impact on other segments from refining shutdown, with MoReTec-2 FID not imminent and modular investment approach.
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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

Earnings calendar feed

MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$1.88$1.99-5.3%$2.46
Revenue$10.32B$10.59B-2.5%$10.63B

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