First Internet Bancorp
First Internet Bancorp Q1 FY2024 earnings call
April 25, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-03
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Summary
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Management highlights
Management Statement and Operational Highlights
- Loan Portfolio Transition: The company continued to transition the loan portfolio composition, achieving net loan growth of $70 million. New funded loan origination yields were 8.84%, and the overall loan portfolio yield increased 23 basis points.
- SBA Performance: SBA originations and sold loan volume were up 27% and 55% respectively compared to Q1 2023, with gain on sale revenue setting a quarterly record.
- Deposit Growth: Strong deposit growth was observed, with non-maturity deposits up over $66 million, driven by fintech partnership deposits and money market balances.
- Net Interest Income: Net interest income was $20.7 million, up 4.7%, and fully-taxable equivalent net interest income was $21.9 million, up 4.2%. Net interest margin was 1.66% fully-taxable equivalent, up 7 basis points.
- Noninterest Income: Noninterest income was $8.3 million, up from the prior quarter, with gain on sale of loans totaling $6.5 million, a quarterly record.
- Asset Quality: Nonperforming loans were 33 basis points of total loans, with net charge-offs to average loans at 5 basis points. Delinquencies 30+ days past due were 53 basis points at quarter-end but declined post-quarter.
- Capital Levels: Common equity tier 1 capital ratio was 9.52%, tangible common equity ratio was 6.79%, and tangible book value per share increased 1% QoQ and 6.6% YoY.
Segment performance
Segment Performance
- Loans: Commercial lending balances grew by $75 million (10% annualized) led by construction, small business, and franchise finance. Consumer balances were modestly down. New funded loan origination yields were 8.84%, and the overall loan portfolio yield increased 23 basis points. Net loan growth was $70 million, or over 7% annualized.
- Deposits: Deposit balances grew by $206.8 million (5.1%) from the prior quarter. Non-maturity deposits were up over $66 million, with fintech partnership deposits up 32% and payments volume from fintech partners up 29%.
Guidance
Guidance
- Net Interest Income: Expect loan yields to continue increasing, with deposit costs modestly up. Anticipate NII to be up 20% for 2024, and fully-taxable equivalent net interest margin to be in the 1.9%-2% range by Q4.
- Fintech Revenue: Fintech partnership revenue is expected to be 3x the amount recognized in 2023, with significant recurring revenue components.
- Loan Growth: Forecasted loan growth for 2024 is in the range of 5%-10%.
Risks
Risks
- Interest Rate Risks: Impact of Federal Reserve rate cuts on net interest income and deposit betas, with some deposits tied directly to Fed Funds having 100% beta.
- Credit Risks: Exposure to office real estate (less than 1% of loan balances) and specific borrowers like Red Lobster, but collateral and underwriting mitigate risks.
- Regulatory Risks: Impact of regulatory requirements on capital ratios and liquidity, though the company's safety and soundness exam in 2023 had no concerns.
Q&A highlights
Question and Answer
Q: Impact of rate cuts on NII and NIM, deposit betas?
A: A 25 basis point rate cut is roughly $1 million annualized NII. Deposit betas: Fed Funds tied deposits have 100% beta, CDs ~100%, others 50%-60%.
Q: Red Lobster bankruptcy impact?
A: Exposure ~$40M, loan to value under 50%, history of repositioning, low loss rate with only 1 loan loss in 12 years.
Q: SBA guidance, fee income, expenses?
A: SBA fee income growth higher, expenses expected in 10%-12% range, but exact numbers not specified.
Q: Fintech pipeline, vision?
A: 10+ live, 10+ testing, 20+ in negotiation, focus on cleaning pipeline, revenue expected to triple YoY.
Q: CD maturing, margin guidance?
A: CDs maturing, replacement cost cheaper, industry dropping rates, margin expected to improve.
Q: Tax rate, fee income to revenue?
A: Effective tax rate ~7.5% near term, fee income to revenue likely high 25% to approaching 30%.
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