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Huntsman CORP

Huntsman CORP Q3 FY2024 earnings call

November 5, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

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Management highlights

  • Third quarter ended as expected, focusing on fourth quarter and year end.
  • Improvement in North American housing and construction is key for earnings.
  • MDI price increases in Q4 had little traction despite low inventories.
  • Record global chemical assets for sale in Europe, with potential facility closures due to regulatory and cost issues.
  • Initiating a $50 million cost reduction program in global polyurethanes business.
  • Capitalizing on EV battery opportunities, energy efficiency in home and building materials.
  • Recently settled Boeing strike will cost a few million dollars in Q4.
  • Visits to markets in Malaysia, China, Saudi Arabia, and Korea identified relatively low growth but opportunities ahead.
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Segment performance

No detailed absolute revenue figures with contribution percentages provided in the transcript. However, mentions include MDI market dynamics, with low inventories and recent price increases having little traction; Performance Products saw sales volume increases in construction, coatings, and adhesives but faced demand challenges.

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Guidance

  • Hopes for lower interest rates, pent-up housing demand, Asian stimulus announcements, lower inventories, and greater political certainty in Europe and U.S. to improve market conditions.
  • Anticipates margin expansion in 2025 depending on demand in North American housing, Chinese consumer confidence, and Europe's manufacturing policy around energy.
  • Believes global capacity utilization from Europe is moving to other regions like U.S., Middle East, and Asia.
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Risks

  • Uncertainty regarding competitors' MDI asset actions in Europe.
  • Europe's regulatory and high-cost structures potentially leading to facility closures.
  • Challenges in inventory restocking due to anemic demand in some regions.
  • Impact of interest rate changes on consumer spending and housing demand.
  • Delayed recovery from Boeing strike due to aerospace supply chain complexities.
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Q&A highlights

Q: How to think about inventory restocking with demand anemic?

A: No widespread restocking until genuine demand picks up, with chemical supply chains taking time to ramp up if demand spikes.

Q: International trade flows in MDI and maleic anhydride?

A: Trade flows remain regional, with U.S. tariffs on MDI and maleic, and maleic overcapacity in China spilling into Europe.

Q: New business wins in North America polyurethanes and competitive position?

A: Wins in construction (OSB, insulation), but MDI is also used in other areas not major for Huntsman.

Q: Performance Amines capacity expansion timeline?

A: Polyurethane catalyst project in Hungary expected done by year end, ULTRAPURE amines production in qualifying phases with commercial contribution expected early 2025.

Q: Inventory charges and seasonality in Q4 EBITDA?

A: Q4 EBITDA includes seasonal slowness and inventory charges, with optimism for 2025 due to stimulus, rate cuts, and capacity utilization improvement.

Q: Impact of Boeing strike end on Q4 and beyond?

A: Boeing strike impact won't normalize quickly due to aerospace supply chain complexities, likely affecting Huntsman closer to year end.

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