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FRANKLIN COVEY CO

FRANKLIN COVEY CO Q2 FY2025 earnings call

April 2, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2025-02

EPS · actual vs est

$-0.08 / $-0.11Beat +27.3%

Revenue · actual vs est

$59.6M / $62.6MMiss -4.8%
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Summary

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Management highlights

Key Points - External Impact: Experiencing direct and indirect impact from government actions, trade tensions, and economic uncertainty. Government revenue down by at least $5M, international revenues potentially down $4M, and education having a possible $3M impact. - Go-to-Market Transformation: Tracking ahead of expectation, with significant traction in new logo sales (exceeded plan by over 50% in Q2) and client expansions. $16M incremental investment this year in the transformation. - Segment Strengths: Enterprise North America has high renewal rates (61% of subscription revenue under multi-year contracts), client expansion (average revenue per All Access Pass client up to over $85,000), and increased advanced bookings for new services. Education business has strong demand for Leader in Me, with 7,800 schools and growth potential.

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Segment performance

The company's segments faced various impacts. Government revenue, which is roughly 6% or $17 million of total business, was affected with approximately $5 million in government revenue cancelled or postponed. International direct and licensee operations, particularly in China, Europe, and Canada, had potential impacts with expected international revenues down by up to $4 million. In the enterprise North America segment, revenue renews at high rates, clients expand, and advanced bookings for new services excluding government business increased 5% YTD. Education revenue grew 3% in Q2 and 7% YTD, with year-to-date invoiced amounts up 13%, and there are 7,800 Leader in Me schools globally.

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Guidance

Fiscal Year 2025 - Revenue expected to be between $275M and $285M, adjusted EBITDA between $30M and $33M. - Q3 Guidance: Revenue between $67M and $71M, adjusted EBITDA between $4M and $6.5M. - Expectation: Anticipates a one-year step back due to government impacts, with adjusted EBITDA expected to approach original 2025 expectations in 2026, and will provide updated guidance for 2026 in November.

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Risks

Risks - Government spending cuts and cancellations affecting government revenue. - International tariff-related impacts causing client postponements or cancellations. - Potential uncertainty in education funding allocation affecting decision-making. - Client spending policy changes and broader economic conditions impacting business.

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Q&A highlights

Q: Alex Paris asked about federal government impact, specifically which agencies are involved and the impact on revenue.

A: Paul Walker responded that government revenue is ~6% or $17M, majority federal, including DOD, VA, US AID, Health and Human Services, etc., with ~$5M already cancelled or postponed.

Q: Jeff Martin inquired about the subscription model's durability in a recession and new logo sales.

A: Paul Walker stated that multi-year contracts (55% of contracts, 61% of subscription revenue) provide durability, and new logo sales were strong in Q2 with good early indicators for Q3.

Q: Nehal Chokshi asked about free cash flow drivers and buyback confidence.

A: Steve Young replied that free cash flow is affected by taxes, customer deposits, and profitability, and the company remains committed to share buybacks based on share price and cash availability

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Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$-0.08$-0.11+27.3%
Revenue$59.6M$62.6M-4.8%

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