Empire State Realty Trust, Inc.
Empire State Realty Trust, Inc. Q4 FY2024 earnings call
February 20, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12
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Summary
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Management highlights
- Leasing momentum: Achieved over three years of consecutive quarterly lease percentage growth, leased 1.3 million sq ft in 2024, Manhattan office portfolio over 94% leased. Signed major office leases with quality tenants like Burlington, Sol De Janeiro, etc. Early renewals with existing tenants contributed 450,000 sq ft of 2024 lease volume.
- Observatory performance: Continued as TripAdvisor's number one attraction, 2024 net operating income exceeded 2019 levels, had over 485 billion global media impressions and over $950 million in advertising value equivalency in 2024.
- Balance sheet and acquisitions: Best-in-class balance sheet with low leverage, diversified into multifamily and retail assets in Williamsburg, Brooklyn with $221 million of acquisitions executed and $30 million expected in mid-2025.
- Priorities: Focus on lease space, sell observatory tickets, manage balance sheet, identify growth opportunities, and achieve sustainability goals.
Segment performance
In the fourth quarter, Empire State Realty Trust's office portfolio was over 94% leased, with 1.3 million square feet leased in 2024, up from 982,000 sq ft in 2023. The observatory had year-over-year growth in fourth quarter and full-year 2024 net operating income exceeding 2019 levels. The multifamily portfolio had 98.5% occupancy. In terms of revenue contribution, the office portfolio's leasing activity was a significant driver, while the observatory's strong performance contributed to overall results.
Guidance
- Core FFO for 2025 is expected to range from $0.86 to $0.89, compared to 2024 adjusted core FFO of $0.91. Factors contributing to the decline include lower interest income, higher G&A, etc.
- Same-store property cash NOI growth excluding certain items is expected to range from 0.5% to 4%, with commercial occupancy expected to be 89%-91% by year-end 2025.
- Observatory NOI for 2025 is approximately $97 to $102 million, with expenses expected to be $9 million to $10 million per quarter, accounting for tourism fluctuations and bad weather.
Risks
- Macro factors affecting observatory: Dollar strength, Europe's threat to tourism, limited airline seat capacity between China and New York City (only 10 direct flights per week in 2024 compared to 72 in 2019).
- Office transaction volumes: Significantly below 2019 levels, with limited attractive opportunities seen yet.
Q&A highlights
Q: Just curious about the dynamics and pull forward of leasing activity and where the portfolio might settle on lease percentage.
A: Tom Durels mentioned strong leasing momentum, pipeline with 50,000 sq ft signed in Q1 2025 and 130,000 sq ft in negotiation, and expects to get above 95% lease percentage by year-end.
Q: Thoughts on observatory NOI guidance for 2025.
A: Tony Malkin noted early in the year, macro factors like dollar strength, Europe's threat, and airline seat capacity affecting, but confident in observatory's preeminent position.
Q: Commentary on investment opportunities, especially office.
A: Tony Malkin said volumes below 2019, nothing attracted yet, interested in residential and retail.
Q: Color on CapEx in 2025.
A: Steve Horn said elevated Q4 spend was timing issue, expect CapEx to decrease in 2025, excluding one-time item.
Q: Update on Williamsburg North Sixth corridor rents and vacancy.
A: Tom Durels said underwrote 30% mark-to-market increase, optimistic on go-forward, proposals from well-known brands for vacant space.
Q: Impact of large tenants' headcount reductions.
A: Tom Durels said Macy's sublease space is spoken for, Kohl's has remaining lease term yet to be seen impactful.
Q: View on net effective rent growth and demand across tenant sizes.
A: Tom Durels said continued rent growth with lower concessions and TI, interest from various tenant sizes with demand migrating to high-quality assets.
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