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Digimarc CORP Q3 FY2024 earnings call

November 17, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09

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Management highlights

Riley highlighted Q3 as significant, noting progress in invention and market development but revenue not reflecting this due to a delayed commercial contract renewal. The deal is transformational but took longer to close. Charles discussed financial results, stating Q3 results weren't reflective of business state due to the delayed contract, including ARR details, revenue breakdown, improved subscription and service gross profit margins, operating expenses, and cash flow. Emphasized investing resources in the transformational deal despite Q3 not seeing revenue from it and intent to hold an interim call if the deal closes soon.

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Segment performance

Subscription revenue was $5.3 million in Q3 2024, accounting for 56% of total revenue, up 9% year-over-year. Service revenue was $4.2 million, flat year-over-year. Ending ARR was $18.7 million, down $900,000 from the prior year, with a $5.8 million decrease due to a delayed commercial contract renewal partially offset by new net additions to ARR.

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Guidance

Charles stated Q4 free cash flow usage is expected to be significantly improved from Q3. If the large commercial deal closes before the next scheduled call, an interim call will be held to provide more details on the deal and future outlook.

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Risks

Risk of the large commercial deal taking longer to close than expected, resource allocation decisions impacting other opportunities, and the impact of not being able to discuss specific deal details fully, as company resources are deployed with long-term value maximization in mind.

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Q&A highlights

Q: What are the risks in the large commercial deal closing and confidence in closing?

A: Riley discussed trading time for scope, resource allocation responsibility, and focus on long-term value. He mentioned the company takes resource allocation seriously and is focused on maximizing long-term value.

Q: Update on gift card opportunity?

A: Q3 had some gift card revenue, expects more in Q4, and it'll be a contributor in 2025, but full update to come when all developments tie together.

Q: Operation during contract gap for large customer?

A: Losing access to contract coverage if there's a gap, but not all services lost; preference for long-term scope over short-term renewal to maximize long-term value.

Q: Updates on European recycling deals?

A: Mentioned AIM's e-mail about Q4 signing related to European flexible packaging circularity trial, but details to come in full update when all business aspects can be discussed together.

Q: Progress on reseller and subscription revenue upsell?

A: Partners are expanding, existing customer upsells contribute to subscription revenue growth, with focus on expanding relationships with partners.

Q: AI watermarking legislation in California?

A: Disappointed with California Senate bill progression, but hopeful for next year's efforts as the proposed bill won't work, and Assemblymember Wicks plans to reintroduce relevant legislation.

Q: Gift card opportunity and partnership with Blackhawk?

A: Excited about gift card industry's need for a solution to fraud, expects growth in 2025, no announced partnership yet, but industry is seeking novel solutions and regulation is driving action.

Q: Upsell opportunity with the large deal?

A: Awaiting deal closure to discuss the transformational upsell and how it may contribute to a flywheel effect for long-term value, but details are pending until the deal is closed.

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