CITIZENS FINANCIAL GROUP INC/RI
CITIZENS FINANCIAL GROUP INC/RI Q3 FY2024 earnings call
October 16, 2024 · fiscal period ended 2024-09
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Summary
Generated 2024-10-16
Management highlights
Initiatives
- Private bank growth with new offices opened and team additions, on track to be profitable in Q4.
- Commercial bank serving private capital well, with strong league table positions.
- New York City Metro initiative showing growth in households and deposits.
- TOP 9 program achieving $135 million pretax run rate benefit, TOP 10 in progress.
- BSO actions reducing non-core by $1 billion and paying down higher cost funding.
Balance Sheet
- Strong CET1 ratio at 10.6%, repurchased $325 million in stock, spot LDR 80.8%, Federal Home Loan Bank advances low.
Financial Results
- NII down 2.9% QoQ due to lower NIM and slightly lower interest earning assets; NIM down 10 bps to 2.77% due to hedge costs from forward starting swaps.
- Fees down 2.7% QoQ with seasonality in capital markets, but capital markets fees up 40% YoY led by bond underwriting and M&A advisory.
- Wealth fees up slightly with AUM growth from private bank offset by lower transactional sales.
Credit
- Net charge-offs rose 2 bps to 54 bps, primarily seasonal auto impact; non-accrual loans up 10% QoQ, primarily CRE general office; allowance for credit losses coverage ratio 1.61%, down 2 bps from prior quarter.
Segment performance
Private Bank: Deposits reached $5.6 billion (up from $4 billion in Q2) and assets under management at $4.1 billion. Revenue rose 64% to $49.7 million in Q3, breakeven by mid-quarter, on track to be accretive to earnings in Q4. Commercial Bank: Number two in sponsor leveraged loan arrangements for the quarter, number one over past 12 months. Consumer Banking: New York City Metro initiative had 5% year-on-year growth in households and 7% growth in deposits.
Guidance
Fourth Quarter
- Anticipates NII up 1.5%-2.5% driven by NIM improvement, non-interest income mid-to-high single digits, positive operating leverage, net charge-offs broadly stable, CET1 ratio stable with ~$200 million to $250 million share repurchases.
Medium-Term
- Projected NIM in 3.25%-3.4% range by 2027, driven by front book back book dynamics, deposit portfolio management, and strategic initiatives.
Risks
- Interest Rate Risks: Impact of forward starting swaps and deposit repricing challenges.
- Credit Risks: Uncertainty in general office portfolio workout and potential NPA movements.
- Market Risks: Volatility in capital markets deal activity and client hedging behavior.
Q&A highlights
Q: Scott Siefers from Piper Sandler on margin progression and medium-term NIM walk A: John Woods and Bruce Van Saun discussed non-core contribution (~2 bps/quarter), active balance sheet management, fixed asset repricing, front book back book, deposit migration flipping to neutral/positive, private bank deposit growth, and swap terminations contributing to NIM improvement Q: Matt O'Connor from Deutsche Bank on NII weakness and operating leverage A: John Woods and Bruce Van Saun addressed slightly asset sensitivity, deposit migration trends flipping, loan growth timing, and medium-term operating leverage potential from NIM reflation and fee growth Q: John Pancari from Evercore on loan growth inflection and credit confidence A: Bruce Van Saun, Don McCree, and Brendan Coughlin discussed loan growth building with private bank and commercial bank activity, credit NPAs peaking with stable criticized/classified loans, and auto delinquency reversion to mean with normalized consumer portfolio Q: Erika Najarian from UBS on swap terminations and NIM to 3% by 4Q '25 A: John Woods explained swap terminations to lock in benefits, accounting for amortization, and NIM achievement across rate environments Q: Manan Gosalia from Morgan Stanley on deposit beta and front book back book A: John Woods and Bruce Van Saun discussed deposit beta trajectory, front book back book impact on NIM, and no large securities repositioning plans
Key numbers
Reported versus consensus
Earnings calendar feed
| Metric | Reported | Consensus | Delta | Prior year |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| EPS | $0.77 | $0.78 | -1.8% | $0.85 |
| Revenue | $1.90B | $1.93B | -1.5% | $2.01B |
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