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COMMUNITY FINANCIAL SYSTEM, INC.

COMMUNITY FINANCIAL SYSTEM, INC. Q4 FY2024 earnings call

January 21, 2025 · fiscal period ended 2024-12

EPS · actual vs est

$0.94 / $0.88Beat +6.8%

Revenue · actual vs est

$196.3M / $190.9MBeat +2.8%
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Summary

Generated 2025-01-21

Management highlights

  • 2024 was a solid quarter with operating PPNR of $1.40 per share, growing 8.5% QoQ and 23.9% YoY
  • In 2024, grew operating PPNR per share by 8.2% and operating earnings per share by 2.2% despite KRX index projected to have lower earnings
  • Banking and Corporate: Net interest income grew 18th consecutive year, loans grew 7.5%, deposits grew 4%; Credit quality strong with 10 basis points charge-offs
  • Employee Benefit Services: Drove majority of overall company earnings improvement, managed record assets and participants
  • Insurer Services: Revenues grew 6.7%, expanded footprint via acquisitions but impacted by elevated expenses
  • Wealth Management Services: Revenue growth 14.9%, operating income growth 22.9%, over $1B new advisory sales in 2024
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Segment performance

Banking and Corporate

  • 2024 operating PPNR grew by 5.6%
  • Net interest income grew for the 18th consecutive year
  • Fee income grew by 11.8%
  • Loans grew by 7.5%, deposits grew by 4%

Employee Benefit Services

  • Revenues expanded by 11.8% and operating income expanded by 11.9%
  • Managing a record amount of assets and participants

Insurer Services

  • Revenues grew by 6.7%
  • Expanded footprint via acquisitions

Wealth Management Services

  • Revenue growth of 14.9% and operating income growth of 22.9%
  • Over $1 billion of new advisory sales in 2024
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Guidance

  • Banking: Growth likely to moderate to mid-single digits, funding priority, expect credit costs to trend up, opening 16 branches with some expense volatility
  • Employee Benefit Services: Mid-to-high single digit revenue expansion, some investments in products and people
  • Insurer Services: Focus on operating efficiency, M&A to supplement organic growth, mid-to-high single digit revenue growth expectation
  • Wealth Management Services: Likely mid-to-high single digit revenue growth, launching new products, adding producers
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Risks

  • Credit quality trends: Expect credit costs to trend back up, so slowly inching up ACL
  • Competition: More competitors back after 2022, may impact growth in banking business
  • Expense management: Insurer Services impacted by elevated expenses in 2024, need to manage in 2025
  • Market dependence: Employee Benefit Services revenue half tied to market, which can impact results
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Q&A highlights

Q: Regarding loan pipeline and pricing, where is the loan pipeline today and what are rates on commercial side?

A: Pipeline remains reasonably in line; commercial rates around 7% on average.

Q: Thoughts on margin trajectory, NII growth?

A: Expect margin to continue growing, NII to increase in 2025; book yield on loans 5.58%, booking new loans at 7%, expecting mid-single digit loan portfolio growth Q: Expense volatility and growth in Employee Benefits business?

A: Expect mid-single digits expense growth in 2025; Employee Benefits expects positive operating leverage, investments can be offset with reasonable market outcome Q: Loan yields, payoff activity, deposit costs, regulatory environment?

A: Loan yields up 7 basis points to 5.58%, prepayments below average; no pressure to increase deposit costs, continuing to grind costs lower; regulatory environment more constructive, may see more M&A opportunities Q: Securities maturity schedule, fee capabilities expansion?

A: 2025 light on security maturities, significant maturities in late 2026 and 2027; fee capabilities from 2024 back half as good starting point, expect reasonable growth in 2025

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Key numbers

Reported versus consensus

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MetricReportedConsensusDeltaPrior year
EPS$0.94$0.88+6.8%$0.76
Revenue$196.3M$190.9M+2.8%$177.0M

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